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Politically Incorrect, Drug War, Parenting, Dec. 2000

Part 1 of 2 Discussion on the war on drugs and parenting. Jimmy Walker from Good Times guest stars.

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  1. LOL @ Morphine being? ok only because it’s legal but weed is just a slippery slope. She’s stupid… Chemical pharmaceuticals are more dangerous and they are narcotics. Weed is a natural herb.

  2. truth is humans? have been using drugs FOREVER! What makes us this great society where suddenly this needs to stop. The problem is in over consumption and addiction which NEEDS to be handled as a social and health problem NOT a criminal offense.

  3. Jimmy Walker looks good. He used to be so skinny on Good Times, now he’s all muscular and jacked in this? show. Good for him.

  4. I talked about hard drugs because you made the point about ODing and increased usage.

    Well like I said, it did not decrease because they decriminalised it, it decreased due to the increased medical facilities and awareness measures that Portugal put in place to combat the increased usage.

    I say, they should’ve done it? despite it being a criminal offense. That would’ve helped a lot more.

    And I was talking about food rations purely for health reasons, not unavailability

  5. Firstly, they decriminalised, not legalised, and secondly I thought we were debating pot. If you’re going to debate the harder drugs though, isn’t that a success? Usage is no? one else’s business, it’s the problems created that is the issue and they decreased as you said. Well during the 2nd World War they made food rations here in the UK – extreme circumstances but the point is that drug prohibition is impractical (and immoral), just like food rationing

  6. Well dear, Portugal legalised ALL hard drugs dear, including cocaine and heroin. Not just Marijuana. So , I am very much? accurate. They found the usage had increased but ODs, and HIV cases from dirty needles had decreased.

    I’m not sure they could possibly do that. I’m not aware of a country that has done that. And like I said its because almost every healthy human being eats these things as well. So the government would find serious trouble putting the law in place.

  7. Well that can’t be accurate because you cannot overdose on marijuana. And there could be legislation to tackle poor diet. They could outlaw certain foods or introduce food rationing. It’d be difficult and anti-liberty but so? is drug prohibition, which has done nothing to curb use of illicit drugs

  8. First of all thats not accurate. The usage actually increased but the number of overdose cases decreased.

    That happened in Portugal because they took medical and awareness measures after legalization which they should’ve done anyway.

    Thing with poor diet, lack of exercise etc there are reasons why theyre not illegal. You can’t possibly monitor every persons diet. You can’t shutdown McDonalds because every healthy guy eats there? too. Same with the rest

  9. Well although I’d imagine that to happen, it hasn’t happened with decriminalization (admittedly, not the same thing exactly but…) in places? like Portugal, where usage has dropped. Also, there are plenty of habits that could be construed as ‘bad’, the legality of which isn’t debated (poor diet, lack of exercise, excessive video-game/internet usage etc.)

  10. When I said addict I was quoting to daily marijuana smokers. Similarly daily beer drinkers and people who smoked more than 10 cigs a day.

    I know maybe “addict” was too strong? a word for that level of usage, but it still doesn’t disqualify the point Im making.

    …which is..
    The reason there are fewer daily smokers of marijuana than people who smoke more than 10 cigs a day is because Marijuana is not “as” easily available and because theres an aura of “illegal” around it.

  11. Jeez, what was that black woman on about, a ‘slippery slope’? Alcohol and nicotine are legal; gambling is legal; porn is legal. Her expressing her dimwit views on a? show watched by millions of people is legal. But apparently, after that point somebody spilled some oil and the rest of the slope, from marijuana-onwards becomes slippery. Well ain’t that convenient? Alcohol, nicotine etc. are part of the slippery slope. You either go down the slide or you don’t go on it at all.

  12. Well how do you define an ‘addict’? The stereotypical pot-head causes less harm than a typical alcoholic. Also, most find alcohol or nicotine a lot? harder to give-up than pot, despite the greater harm being caused by them

  13. I think both sides have totally missed the point.

    YES cigarettes are WORSE.
    YES beer is worse.

    I smoked Marijuana, drank and smoked cigs a while back till I stopped? them all.

    BUT
    BUT BUT

    I have a number of friends who have done the legal but not the illegal stuff, simply because its not EASILY AVAILABLE.

    Thats what legalizing drugs does, makes it readily available.Simple fact is number of addicted are fewer for marijuana than beer or cigarettes. It being illegal is most certainly the reason

  14. The deaths from legal drugs we never hear about…why? Lobbyists. illegal drug deaths we? hear about all the time because its demonized

  15. Weed is the least likely drug for one to get addicted to, and the least dangerous of any drug that I could think of. It’s completely backwards that it is illegal. I’m happy more states are taking steps to make it legally availiable, but? it just needs to be completely legalized and regulated like alcohol and tobacco. If they do that it will actually get HARDER for kids to get their hands on. When i was young it was easier for me to get weed than it was for me to get alcohol.

  16. Quick note, cigerettes don’t alter perception like alcohal and marijuana.? You are not under the influence after smoking cigerettes. I’m not against marijuana, I don’t think it should be illegal if alcohal is legal. But I also cannot imagine the business institutions that would be regulating it. It’s hard to imagine a store selling it. I’ve smoked pot before. I don’t do it anymore, not to say I won’t do it again. But I think decriminalizing should be done in incriments, not one sweeping law.

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